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Post by Enzo Palumbo on Oct 7, 2011 19:33:41 GMT -5
Think before you speak/type is some pretty good advice.
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Post by Dustin Erikstrup on Oct 7, 2011 19:53:21 GMT -5
-.-
Why can't you just let me be stupid?
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Post by Dominic Briones on Oct 7, 2011 20:11:14 GMT -5
Lori and Carol the best duo in recycled history, Julie? Psh. That's an excessive title for a duo who entered the game as a pre-alliance... I'm not diminishing their efforts, they fooled us all (even when I initially pegged them and then Lori convinced me otherwise), but I think that the title should be reserved for a duo that can make it to the end and didn't start the game as a pre-alliance. Just sayin.
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Post by Enzo Palumbo on Oct 7, 2011 20:26:49 GMT -5
Best duo from start to finish that manipulated everyone. Pregame alliance or not is pretty amazing. There hasn't been another duo that's accomplished that in the series. (Correct me if I'm wrong Julie) So yeah, I'd say they are the best duo in Recycled History. Read DR's when it's over and you'll see why. You guys were total suckers and took every piece of bait that Lori and Carol gave you.
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Post by Dominic Briones on Oct 7, 2011 22:30:27 GMT -5
Enzo, I totally see your points and I've admitted they did well at what they did. I just think it's kind of a wash given their HUGE advantage of coming into this with a pre-determined F2. They played a superb pre-game F2 game, but my point was that I'd rather see this title saved for a future duo who does the same thing w/o the pre-game. Not arguing whether they did well to hide their alliance and manipulate everyone... Just stating that I think their pre-game tarnishes the title. Having my only ORG win in 7 years come from my own pre-game final 2 in which we made it all the way, I know that I'd feel much more worthy to win a game that I didn't have an alliance coming into the game (tho that's never happened lol).
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Post by Enzo Palumbo on Oct 7, 2011 23:15:48 GMT -5
A pregame alliance of 2 is not that big of an advantage honestly.
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Post by Amy "Holy Fool" Crews on Oct 7, 2011 23:18:23 GMT -5
A pregame alliance of 2 is not that big of an advantage honestly. Tell that to the Starz 3 jury. -______-.
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Post by Enzo Palumbo on Oct 7, 2011 23:29:11 GMT -5
Actually hers was an alliance of 3. One more person makes a HUGE difference. I can see why people would try and discredit Lori and Carol, but they totally dominated this game and nobody did jack shit about it. Lori was not nominated all game and Carol was nominated how many times? Once or twice? And one of those times was BY Lori. I'm sorry, but yeah Best Duo for sure, imo.
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Post by Cassi Colvin on Oct 7, 2011 23:43:24 GMT -5
I agree, two people isn't THAT big of a deal considering there were so many people in the cast, but I also agree with Dominic. It's still much easier to play in a game where you come in knowing you can always rely and count on someone no matter what and they won't fuck you over. I've played and won a few games where I went in knowing nobody and I solidified my place with people and I made allies in the game who I was able to trust to the degree Carol and Lori were able to. Now going on what Dom said, I feel like I truly deserved those wins because I started those games from scratch, didn't know anybody, I was able to be myself and get to the end on my own and win. Had I signed up for those games with another person from the get-go and won, even if the other person I came into the game with got out at some point in the game, it was still an advantage for those rounds we both would have been in and its just a nicer feeling knowing you won a game on your own.
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Post by Lori Valenti on Oct 8, 2011 4:50:46 GMT -5
I'm tired of everyone just putting us down. It's just a game. I think we did a pretty good job. If everyone else thinks other wise then that's fine. I'm just getting annoyed will all this negativity. I've been getting shit for the past month and a half. I genuinely liked all of you. I made true friendships and talked personally with everyone. I just had to play a game with it. Every eviction was hard for me. Because I was sending people I truely liked out of the house. I can't take everyone to the Final two. I'm sorry guys. But someone had to win . . . . and it was going to be me! lol If you think we were the best f2 then thank you, If you think we were the worst. Then that's fine too. but Just understand where I was coming from as a player who was here for the gold!
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Post by Dustin Erikstrup on Oct 8, 2011 10:24:05 GMT -5
I am on Lori's side. A pregame alliance doesn't always work. Sometimes your pregame alliance pisses you off so you evict them yourself. They both won the competitions and made the game moves to deserve the Final Two spots.
What I don't like, however, was Carol acting how she did to guarantee Lori would win. Lori didn't have to say a thing. I think Lori's win would have been a lot more well deserved if both of them had actually fought for the title of the BBR9 Winner.
And also Lori and Carol, just be aware that you two have GIANT targets on your backs in All-Stars.
Good luck!
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Post by Braden Bacha on Oct 8, 2011 12:00:45 GMT -5
While pregames suck... It was our fault for not sniffing it out.
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Post by Dominic Briones on Oct 8, 2011 16:31:41 GMT -5
This message is to Lori, I don't think you guys were the worst at all! In fact, I'm sure a strong argument can be made that you guys were the best duo so far (I don't know recycled history well at all). The biggest point I wanted to make is that having a pre-game f2 that you can count on is a very big advantage which I can attest to, since that's how I won my first game ever as well. I understand that having a pre-game final 2 isn't enough to win you the game alone and that you did a lot of other great things to get where you got (hell I voted for you with confidence!). However, you and Carol had something that none of us had (to my knowledge), so I think that naturally we all (most of the rest of the cast who is speaking up here) feel a bit disadvantaged. And I am not discrediting your game at all. When I brought this up at first, I wasn't trying to start a debate. I just wanted to shed light on the fact that, while you girls played a great game and had us all fooled, you did have an advantage, no matter how small or big. I would have LOVED the security of knowing that I had someone I could trust fully, and there have been games where I signed up and found out that I did have someone who I didn't know was playing, and it helped me a lot. But in the end, I know that I want to eventually win a game where I have nobody going into the game, because I feel that it truly is what will give me the ability to be proud that I played a game 100% on my own. That is all. Also, Congrats on the win. I told you in a PM, but not publicly.
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Post by Lori Valenti on Oct 8, 2011 16:47:14 GMT -5
I see where you're coming from.
But you also had known adria and dick before hand too. And Y'all three banned together. If you three would have madr it to the end it would have been the same thing. You wouldn't have picked anyone else over them.
But hey everyone has their own opionions. I'm just proud we were able to break up the fantastic four!! I didn't even think I would make it this far. I had a huge target most of the game. I was just trying to take down as many people as possible before I was evicted.
If it makes y'all feel any better I can bet that I will be first or second evicted in all stars. So good luck to the rest of y'all on that.
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Post by Dominic Briones on Oct 8, 2011 17:30:12 GMT -5
I did know both Dick and Adria, but I wasn't exactly friends with either of them prior to this. Also, I was aligned with Adria before I knew who she was (and had planned on taking her out if needing to bc I recognized she was strong) I knew Dick was a very OTT person, and I didn't come into the game knowing that they'd be playing or intoning on using my relationships with them. Just clearing that up. I dont know what your intentions were when coming into this game with carol (diary rooms are still closed) but I get the impression that you guys joined this game together with the intention of a final 2 alliance. If that's not the case, I apologize for assuming, but my alliance and relationship with dick and Adria can't really be compared equally to yours.
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